Joint Committee For IDR:
Shall We Have A Forum?
The latest reaction on IDR is from Renegix. He suggests that an independent group organizes a forum about FDI. It sounds like a good idea.
But who is going to be the organizer? Persatuan Anak-Anak Melayu Johor (PAMJ) which is based in Kuala Lumpur? How many people will turn up? Who will be the main speaker? Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad himself? Will Khairy Jamaluddin allows him to do so?
Well, may be you all can articulate this idea and suggest how to go about it. In the meantime, here is more from Renegix.
“Dy by day, I don’t know anymore how to say or react. I feel like I don’t want to come back anymore. But, that's the place where I have been born, making friends! And the same goes to all of us. And for sure, I will defend it! What had happened actually? Seems like yesterday Tun (Dr Mahathir Mohamad) stepped down as a Prime Minister, in a swift, lots have changed - the policies, projects, etc. Ya Allah, lindungilah negara kami. Pertahankanlah ia, amin!!! Why don’t you or some others organize a talk, forum or anything about this thing (WPI)?”
On second thought, may be it is an excellent move if my dear friend, Raja Petra Kamarudin of Malaysia Today, is willing to organize the suggested forum. What do you think? – Ruhanie Ahmad
Shall We Have A Forum?
The latest reaction on IDR is from Renegix. He suggests that an independent group organizes a forum about FDI. It sounds like a good idea.
But who is going to be the organizer? Persatuan Anak-Anak Melayu Johor (PAMJ) which is based in Kuala Lumpur? How many people will turn up? Who will be the main speaker? Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad himself? Will Khairy Jamaluddin allows him to do so?
Well, may be you all can articulate this idea and suggest how to go about it. In the meantime, here is more from Renegix.
“Dy by day, I don’t know anymore how to say or react. I feel like I don’t want to come back anymore. But, that's the place where I have been born, making friends! And the same goes to all of us. And for sure, I will defend it! What had happened actually? Seems like yesterday Tun (Dr Mahathir Mohamad) stepped down as a Prime Minister, in a swift, lots have changed - the policies, projects, etc. Ya Allah, lindungilah negara kami. Pertahankanlah ia, amin!!! Why don’t you or some others organize a talk, forum or anything about this thing (WPI)?”
On second thought, may be it is an excellent move if my dear friend, Raja Petra Kamarudin of Malaysia Today, is willing to organize the suggested forum. What do you think? – Ruhanie Ahmad
12 comments:
terima kasih datuk kerna sudi membincangkan idea ini..pertama-tamanya penekanan forum ini haruslah lebih kepada kedaulatan negara dan tidak menjurus ke arah politik..kerna jika nasib negara dipolitikkan oleh pihak2 tertentu..maka huru-haralah jadinya..oleh itu..panelis forum ini mestilah terdiri dari golongan ahli akademik yang berpengetahuan luas di dalam bidang yang berkaitan..kita sedang memforumkan kedaulatan negara bukannya ideologi politik!..kebimbangan saya lebih menjurus ke arah kedaulatan negara!..oleh itu pastikan panelis yang akan terlibat tidak mempunyai agenda politik tertentu yang boleh menyimpangkan forum itu ke arah forum politik..saya mencadangkan jemputlah cendekiawan2 negara seperti prof diraja ungku aziz..prof khoo khay kim dan lain2...kami hanya mampu memberi idea tetapi perlaksanaannya di atas org2 yang 'berkemampuan' seperti datuk dan yang lain...amat menyedihkan ketika pilihan raya..orang melayu sanggup berarak,berkempen,turun padang menyuarakan sokongan terhadap parti masing2..bermacam2 aktiviti dilakukan untuk memastikan calon parti masing2 menang..tetapi ketika perkara yang berkaitan dgn patriotisme seperti ini..org2 melayu menyerahkan segalanya kepada takdir..tidak mahu berusaha..selepas itu menuduh org bukan melayu tidak patriotik sedangkan mereka sendiri sekadar hangat2 taik ayam...niat saya ikhlas untuk mempertahankan kedaulatan negara..tidak bias kepada mana2 parti politik..saya melihat perkara ini dari sudut kedaulatan negara..marilah semua org melayu melihatny dari arah yang sama tanpa melibatkan kepentingan politik masing2...
dan tak perlulah sempitkan forum ini kepada anak2 jati johor sahaja..kita bercakap ttg MALAYSIA..tidak salah rasanya menjemput persatuan dan panelis yang bukan anak johor
Assalamualaikum,
Datuk,
Maaf kerana comment saya mungkin tidak ada kena mengena dengan tajuk di atas.. Saya ingin melahirkan rasa kurang senang dengan blog Malaysia Today. Sememangnya rencana2 tulisan RPK dan Sayuti amat berkesan. Tetapi minta Datuk baca artikel seperti 'Halal Pig' dan "Penang UMNO's 2 for me, 1 for you" dan comment yang ditulis. Terjahan2, maki hamun dan kutukan2 lucah yang dibuat pada saudara2 sebangsa dengan kita sukar untuk diterima. Ini menginatkan kembali bagaiman melayu direbus di dalam kawah air panas di Batu Pahat semasa 13 hari Komunis memerintah. Rata2 pada hemat saya ianya ditulis oleh rakan2 Cina berdasarkan gaya bahasa dalam pantun 'tak siap' itu. Harap Datuk dan rakan2 dapat memberikan perhatian.
Saya setuju dengan pemerhati luar. Ramai dikalangan bloggers melayu yang terjebak dengan posting2 yang menghentam melayu. Sama juga apa yang berlaku diSabah. 2 @ 3 bloggers melayu kita telah diperalatkan oleh chauvanist suku kaum yang ingin melihat kejatuhan kepimpinan melayu (islam) di Sabah. Saya harap Datuk tau siapa yang saya maksudkan. Harap Datuk dapat menyedarkan kawan2 kita agar tidak terperangkap dengan grand design kaum yang chauvanistik itu.
Setuju di adakan forum atau seminar. Kalau tidak dapat meyedarkan AAb, sekurang2nya orang melayu J ohor khususnya dan Malaysia amnya tahu akan musibah yang akan menimpa selatan Johor !
IDR OR NOT, 13 MEI WHATEVER.. WE DONT CARE
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salaam tok
idr is a project to turn johore into singapore's backyard. this is a shameful regression, when tdm has chartered a brilliant course to turning malaysia into a fully industrialised economy by 2020. tdm's v2020 is a holistic approach that will turn malaysia into a prosperous independent economy that malaysias do themselves. not totally independent, but with as minimal a support as we could since the global economy is turning into a huge marketing economy without borders. we must chart our very own future.
but idr is regression. as singapore's backyard, malaysia will then be dancing to the whimsical tunes of singapore. they will dictate, especially on the sectors and extent to be implemented. never dream of turning any part of malaysia into be a hub of any kind (marketing, r&d, etc.) when singapore will definitely woo them in. a backyard must remain a backyard. the front office will always be in singapore.
they would definitely stifle any malaysian effort to develop as we wish, and perhaps we will return to malaysia of the 80's, albeit with different outlook and lipsticks.
the abandonment of the proposed bridge to replace the causeway is more than just a cautious approach in the legal entanglement as they made it out to be, but certainly a sell-out on our sovereign. and pak lah & sons topped it up with surrendering our industrial future to singapore.
v2020 is a threat singapore feared most, and now it seems that pak lah & sons are presenting it on a silver platter for singapore to slaughter and feast upon.
idr is a project that must do without. so is pak lah & sons. and of course deb too.
organize a forum. i would be more than happy to support. Insha-Allah. please email me accordingly, tok.
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Satu idea yang baik, tapi bagi saya, UMNO Johor sendiri berlu bertindak pantas untuk memperbetulkan keadaan yang semakin tidak terkawal ini kerana ini semua berlaku di bumi Johor, tempat kelahiran UMNO! Dan itulah cara yang terbaik yang dapat saya fikirkan.
Datuk,
Kalau saya orang Johor, tentu lain rasa darah menyirap dan menggelegak.
Namun, darah tetap rasa mendidih. Sangat bimbang kerana pintu empang sedang ternganga. Tapi orang di hilir belum sedar apa-apa, dan siren terlalu perlahan untuk didengari.
Kita tahu mereka boleh buat apa saja. Eluk la ingat-ingat sikit.
Tapi tak tau lah kalau orang Johor sedang melompat kegirangan? meraikan kedatangan orang Singapura yang akan membuka belenggu kemiskinan dikaki semua?
Dalam dunia moden ini, dengan pakaian ranggi, sukar meneka mana Jantan, mana Betina dan mana Pondan. Semuanya nampak sama dari depan, sisi atau belakang!!
Datuk,
Molek benar rasanya akan isu ini dibawa bincang dikalangan pembesar2 UMNO, biarlah laungan pekik UMNO dgn silang kerisnya ubatkan akan bimbang ini.
...tapi siapa? dan bagaimana.... .
'Bangau OH Bangau',terkenang2 diwaktu kecil2
The attack on melayu is not just limited to selling of "tanah melayu" as demonstrated by WPI. WPI is the brainchild of Tingkat 4's zaki zahid and dr vincent lim.
Atatck on malay has reached into constitutional areas like history (13th May, malay as original native), Islamic status (under guise of IFC, Murtad & Article 11 issues), Malay Special position (like Article 153 & DEB), dll.
The 13th May is an issue of sino-malay relationship that pre-dates almost more than 100 years to the 1969 incident. It arise when british capitalist when on an unhindered liberal immigrant policy.
By nature, "they" have been on a "kasi betis nak peha" mode. "They" have been on the offensive when they were not even citizen of this country. Tun Tan Cheng Lok had to the cheeck to call for the slogan Malayan Malaya. This later become Malaysian Malaysia and championed by LKY and later LKS, with chorus by many other political parties.
There is no social contract but a constitutionalise agreement. We accept them as citizen and they accept our special position, malay as national language and islam as official religion.
Social contract is a concept of gentlemen agreement by French philosopher Rousseau with regard to relationship between the ruler and ruled. It is popularise by KJ and is inapplicable. Doesn't gentlemen agreement means it can be renegotiate? Is it plausible to renegotatiate their citizenshiup status? No. SO why the questioning on special position, language and religion?
Malay special position is enshrined in all treaties between the british and the malay (via malay ruler) since pangkor 1877. The constitution take cognizence of this and was mentioned in reid commission.
We must fight this not through muscle and brawn but with brains now.
Our problem among malays is that we do not counter all this. We do not think thoroughly, research and upgrade our arguments. We are so busy defending that we stop attacking.
The root of the problem lies with the insecurity of our politicians. They end up suppressing creativity and independent views amongst malays. When answers are needed, we do not have the answer.
Politicians alone cannot be totally blame. Our thinkers pun pengecut dalam perjuangan. Kena sedikti dah lari. Masaalahnya penggiat melayu terlalu mengharap patronage. Naturally this will happen.
Malay must unite but not in the manner to suppress creative and independent thinking. Malay must unite and think along strategic line, and not self gain for economics, politics and social rewards.
uh, excuse me, husin lempoyang,
but how do you expect malays to fight with brains when our universities clamp on students trying to be critical of umno? AUKU tu, siapa yang bertanggungjawab?
tengok sekarang, sebab kita semua menyokong sangat BN mengongkong pemikiran pelajar universiti kita, kebanyakan pelajar pelajar kita tak sedar pun kedaulatan negara sedang terancam.
universiti kita ni, hanya pandai melahirkan pelajar melayu yang suka bergaduh dengan pelajar cina, macam dekat UPM tu. itu lah dia, kebanggaan universiti universiti malaysia. itu yang kita hendakkan?
kalau tak hendak lagi, kick out saja umno. AUKU tu selagi ada, selagi tu pelajar pelajar universiti takkan boleh analyse issues critically.
lepas tu nak harapkan orang melayu melawan menggunakan minda dan akal kita?
hmmph. angan angan mat jenin je lah.
umno is the root cause of all this. after mahathir left, umno dropped to its lowest level.
we must punish umno.
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